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[Sakura]

Some more interesting facts about bees:

Bees use dances and pheromones to communicate with each other. For example, a "round dance" signals a good pollen area nearby, while a "waggle dance" tells other bees exactly where to go and how far to fly. Pheromones are chemical signals that can alert other bees to danger, mark food sources, and regulate colony behavior.

[Forlorn]

It's surprising how complex the life of insects can be.

[Animedragon]

The animals and plants in our world are so amazingly complex and beautiful that I find it impossible to think it all happened by chance.

[Zeref]

It's also very amazing how much we don't even know about yet. 

[Sakura]

There is so much being discovered in the ocean tbh. I think we have actually explored more of space than we have our own oceans here on Earth. In January 2024 a group of scientists went to explore some underwater mountain ranges off the coast of Chile and in just a couple weeks they had discovered over 100 new types of fish, corals, sponges, and lobsters in the deep sea. 
 

Here's a quick read on it.

[Forlorn]

It seems ironic, to me anyway, that there's still so much to learn about the Earth that we all call home.

[Animedragon]

19 hours ago, Sakura said:

There is so much being discovered in the ocean tbh. I think we have actually explored more of space than we have our own oceans here on Earth. In January 2024 a group of scientists went to explore some underwater mountain ranges off the coast of Chile and in just a couple weeks they had discovered over 100 new types of fish, corals, sponges, and lobsters in the deep sea. 
 

Here's a quick read on it.

That was an interesting read. If that many new creatures can be found at the depths that human and robotic vehicles can reach just think what might be at depths where the water pressure is too great for us and our remotes to reach.

[Zeref]

I secretly wish and hope there is some kind of aquatic ancient dinosaur fish down there like megalodons  I believe they were around 50k years ago so it isn't too much of a reach like something that was more from millions of years. 

[Sakura]

4 hours ago, Zeref said:

I secretly wish and hope there is some kind of aquatic ancient dinosaur fish down there like megalodons  I believe they were around 50k years ago so it isn't too much of a reach like something that was more from millions of years. 

This is why we are BFF's lolll ~ Same like I've always wanted their to be things like megalodons found. When I get my masters degree finished I'm prolly going to be one of those crazy marine scientists you see on TV with the wild hair talking about how we are going on another megalodon expedition because the beast must be out there and there is too much proof that it is  Instead of "Finding Bigfoot" tv show I'll be on the "Finding Megalodon"  But really, there is just soooo much of our ocean that is unexplored that we have literally no idea what could possibly be in it that we haven't found yet. 

[Forlorn]

It'd be pretty sweet if Melaodons were still around in those unexplored depths, but I think it'd scare some people into not swimming in the ocean anymore, too. lol Even though we wouldn't even really be a snack for something that huge, so I don't think it'd actually bother trying to eat one of us unless we were like in front of its mouth. Ever since I first heard of the Megalodon I've wondered what one would look like and been fascinated with it. I've always liked sharks, but after finding out how some humans are hunting and killing them I also had sympathy for them as well as admiration for the marine animals that have been such an important part of the ocean's eco-system. I'm still unsure why they'd eat things like tires and license plates though. That can't be appetizing, can it? o.0

Edited July 23, 2024 by Forlorn

[Zeref]

I think they look fairly like a great white shark but much larger as white sharks are around 20-25 feet for the really huge ones and megalodons are double this size and more. They mostly fed on whales I think. You will have to ask @Sakura about any reasons why sharks would eat this though as I don't know it myself  I do think it is only some sharks like the tiger shark or bull shark that do that but I might be wrong about it. I just heard on the shark week shows that they found things like that in tiger sharks. 

[Sakura]

7 hours ago, Zeref said:

I think they look fairly like a great white shark but much larger as white sharks are around 20-25 feet for the really huge ones and megalodons are double this size and more. They mostly fed on whales I think. You will have to ask @Sakura about any reasons why sharks would eat this though as I don't know it myself  I do think it is only some sharks like the tiger shark or bull shark that do that but I might be wrong about it. I just heard on the shark week shows that they found things like that in tiger sharks. 

Tiger sharks are often called the garbage cans of the ocean for this reason. Most sharks are scavengers and opportunistic feeders and will feed on what's there and what's available. If that happens to be a tire then that's what is for dinner tonight  In 1917 an unexploded bomb was even found inside a shark. Also the electromagnetism in things like car plates would attract a shark to eat it. 

There is a pretty common theory that sharks can push their stomachs out through their mouths and expel things left in it. There has also been a theory, and video proof, that sharks can dispel things out through the side of their bodies. This theory isn't proven but several sharks have been noted over the years to be doing this. Another reason sharks are referred to as having iron stomachs.

Mostly though, sharks just eat meat and plants. If the supply of fish/meat is low they will go for sea vegetation. Sharks can also fast and go up to 6 weeks without eating, and one shark was even documented to go 15 months without eating (It was the species Swell Shark).

[Forlorn]

12 hours ago, Zeref said:

I think they look fairly like a great white shark but much larger as white sharks are around 20-25 feet for the really huge ones and megalodons are double this size and more. They mostly fed on whales I think. You will have to ask @Sakura about any reasons why sharks would eat this though as I don't know it myself  I do think it is only some sharks like the tiger shark or bull shark that do that but I might be wrong about it. I just heard on the shark week shows that they found things like that in tiger sharks. 

Oh, ok. I mean I'm not really fond of them feeding on whales when they existed because I consider them the gentle giants of the ocean that protect even creatures of another species at times. So, the idea of a Megalodon eating a whale makes me not want it to still be around as much as I did before. ;.; Seriously though, I wish I knew what goes on in a shark's mind when they see things like license plates or tires and decide to try to eat them. o.0

4 hours ago, Sakura said:

Tiger sharks are often called the garbage cans of the ocean for this reason. Most sharks are scavengers and opportunistic feeders and will feed on what's there and what's available. If that happens to be a tire then that's what is for dinner tonight  In 1917 an unexploded bomb was even found inside a shark. Also the electromagnetism in things like car plates would attract a shark to eat it. 

There is a pretty common theory that sharks can push their stomachs out through their mouths and expel things left in it. There has also been a theory, and video proof, that sharks can dispel things out through the side of their bodies. This theory isn't proven but several sharks have been noted over the years to be doing this. Another reason sharks are referred to as having iron stomachs.

Mostly though, sharks just eat meat and plants. If the supply of fish/meat is low they will go for sea vegetation. Sharks can also fast and go up to 6 weeks without eating, and one shark was even documented to go 15 months without eating (It was the species Swell Shark).

lol Tires for dinner. XD They're interesting animals, that's for sure. Is it just because of the electromagnetism of things like that though and that they're just that hungry to chomp down a tire when none of its regular food is around? Holy crap though, eating a bomb whole? o.o Sharks sure are hungry fellas. Kind of makes me glad I can't swim knowing they're that hungry. lol I'm joking of course, but not about how hungry they must be to eat those things. I'd love to read a shark's mind just out of curiosity, but I don't think that will ever really happen with anyone. Even so... I'm still really curious what they think about when they're just cruising around the vast, deep ocean. When they're not hunting, that is.

Dude, that's frickin awesome!!!! So no matter what they never bite off more than they can chew? I mean, they don't really chew though as much as rip and shred, but I wish I had shark teeth. An infinite supply of teeth always growing. I might be scary looking to people though if I did... it'd be totally worth it though to have a virtually endless supply of razor sharp, serrated teeth.

I didn't know they ate plants, too. That's interesting to find out. I inaccurately assumed they just ate something every day though like seals, so, assuming things is never a good idea. x.x It sucks that I didn't know that about them, but I'm pretty happy to find out now. Thank you, @Sakura, for teaching me new information about my favorite marine animal~ ^^ ^^ I'm even more in awe of them than I was before tbh after learning those things. I wish I could fast for 15 months. It'd probably save a decent chunk of the folks' funds. ^^;

[Zeref]

I think some whales are not good like killer whales. I think these are classified as whales or maybe an orca is it's own species I don't know much about marine sciences. I do know they kill a lot of sharks on their own and ram boats and can hurt people too.

[Sakura]

20 hours ago, Forlorn said:

Oh, ok. I mean I'm not really fond of them feeding on whales when they existed because I consider them the gentle giants of the ocean that protect even creatures of another species at times. So, the idea of a Megalodon eating a whale makes me not want it to still be around as much as I did before. ;.; Seriously though, I wish I knew what goes on in a shark's mind when they see things like license plates or tires and decide to try to eat them. o.0

lol Tires for dinner. XD They're interesting animals, that's for sure. Is it just because of the electromagnetism of things like that though and that they're just that hungry to chomp down a tire when none of its regular food is around? Holy crap though, eating a bomb whole? o.o Sharks sure are hungry fellas. Kind of makes me glad I can't swim knowing they're that hungry. lol I'm joking of course, but not about how hungry they must be to eat those things. I'd love to read a shark's mind just out of curiosity, but I don't think that will ever really happen with anyone. Even so... I'm still really curious what they think about when they're just cruising around the vast, deep ocean. When they're not hunting, that is.

Dude, that's frickin awesome!!!! So no matter what they never bite off more than they can chew? I mean, they don't really chew though as much as rip and shred, but I wish I had shark teeth. An infinite supply of teeth always growing. I might be scary looking to people though if I did... it'd be totally worth it though to have a virtually endless supply of razor sharp, serrated teeth.

I didn't know they ate plants, too. That's interesting to find out. I inaccurately assumed they just ate something every day though like seals, so, assuming things is never a good idea. x.x It sucks that I didn't know that about them, but I'm pretty happy to find out now. Thank you, @Sakura, for teaching me new information about my favorite marine animal~ ^^ ^^ I'm even more in awe of them than I was before tbh after learning those things. I wish I could fast for 15 months. It'd probably save a decent chunk of the folks' funds. ^^;

Sharks are attracted to anything electric, or even things like batteries they will try to eat. This is why they often go after boat motors and things. They have electro-receptors in their snouts so they can detect things like magnetic fields and electrical fields/electricity. It helps them both look for things to eat and to navigate the ocean. Typically a shark won't eat something like a tire or car plate if they aren't hungry since sharks usually don't overeat. They only eat if they are hungry. Sharks will bite things like motors though or if they find something electrical or like say a battery in the ocean because their mouths are how they tell what something is, it's not about eating it, it's about figuring out what it is and for sharks their mouths are basically their fingers and hands lol 

Oh and yes, sharks are omnivores, so they'll eat meat and plants. Though they typically go for meat. But yeah they can go into a phase where they don't eat for weeks and be just fine. They are indeed cool lil ocean buddies  

@Zeref Orcas, or killer whales, are actually the largest species in the dolphin family and not whales at all. Though all whales, dolphins and porpoises are part of a family known as "Cetacea". This group called Cetaceans goes off into a whole big other branch of things but I won't explain all that lollll 

Edited July 25, 2024 by Sakura

[Forlorn]

4 hours ago, Sakura said:

Sharks are attracted to anything electric, or even things like batteries they will try to eat. This is why they often go after boat motors and things. They have electro-receptors in their snouts so they can detect things like magnetic fields and electrical fields/electricity. It helps them both look for things to eat and to navigate the ocean. Typically a shark won't eat something like a tire or car plate if they aren't hungry since sharks usually don't overeat. They only eat if they are hungry. Sharks will bite things like motors though or if they find something electrical or like say a battery in the ocean because their mouths are how they tell what something is, it's not about eating it, it's about figuring out what it is and for sharks their mouths are basically their fingers and hands lol 

Oh and yes, sharks are omnivores, so they'll eat meat and plants. Though they typically go for meat. But yeah they can go into a phase where they don't eat for weeks and be just fine. They are indeed cool lil ocean buddies  

@Zeref Orcas, or killer whales, are actually the largest species in the dolphin family and not whales at all. Though all whales, dolphins and porpoises are part of a family known as "Cetacea". This group called Cetaceans goes off into a whole big other branch of things but I won't explain all that lollll 

What keeps the sharks from biting on the power lines on the ocean floor? Or some kind of live lines that have some electricity in them, but I think I forgot what they're for. Are they too deep for the sharks to bite into or do they have some kind of material around them to shield the electricity in the wires from attracting anything to them? It'd really suck though to not have fingers and hands and instead only have a gaping mouth of sharp teeth to use to try to figure out what something was. lol No wonder they keep getting new teeth as long as they live. It makes more sense now. It kind of made sense before, but now it makes more sense. I just couldn't figure out what in a marine animal would cause a shark to lose a tooth or break one, so I didn't get why they kept getting new teeth in their lifespan. They're definitely awesome tho~~~ I mean, I love 'em so much I kind of wanna just hug one, but I know I'd most likely end up dead if I did that. lol

8 hours ago, Zeref said:

I think some whales are not good like killer whales. I think these are classified as whales or maybe an orca is it's own species I don't know much about marine sciences. I do know they kill a lot of sharks on their own and ram boats and can hurt people too.

Mom and I see Orcas as the bullies of the sea. >< We aren't overly fond of them. >< ><

[Animedragon]

I read a report in in one of the newspapers this morning that will interest @Sakura. A shark has been spotted swimming up the river Thames in London. I did a bit of research and one of the reports I read says it's a tope shark.

[Zeref]

Can a shark live in water like this? They are supposed to only be in the ocean aren't they? How did it get in there? Is that common? I guess I have a lot of questions about it  

[Animedragon]

I've been looking into the matter of sharks in the Thames.
And I found out that the Thames estuary is known to be home to at least five different species of shark.
The video shows what appears to be a fin moving through the water near Hammersmith Bridge.
There seems to be differing opinions about what it was. One wildlife organisation says it's a tope shark while the The Port of London Authority said the Thames had occasional visits from dolphins, porpoises and even whales but said it was unlikely that any sharks would swim that far upstream.

 

[Sakura]

19 hours ago, Forlorn said:

What keeps the sharks from biting on the power lines on the ocean floor? Or some kind of live lines that have some electricity in them, but I think I forgot what they're for. Are they too deep for the sharks to bite into or do they have some kind of material around them to shield the electricity in the wires from attracting anything to them? It'd really suck though to not have fingers and hands and instead only have a gaping mouth of sharp teeth to use to try to figure out what something was. lol No wonder they keep getting new teeth as long as they live. It makes more sense now. It kind of made sense before, but now it makes more sense. I just couldn't figure out what in a marine animal would cause a shark to lose a tooth or break one, so I didn't get why they kept getting new teeth in their lifespan. They're definitely awesome tho~~~ I mean, I love 'em so much I kind of wanna just hug one, but I know I'd most likely end up dead if I did that. lol

Sharks have frequently been the culprits of problems with cable lines and other power type lines on the ocean floor because they are immediately attracted to them. The lines usually have some kind of protection around them but on more than one occasion sharks have been behind problems with cable/power from ocean lines  Not just sharks but barracudas also have been identified as doing the same thing before. Sharks also tend to lose their teeth a lot when ripping apart large animals like whales, but yeah it doesn't matter because they have new ones very quickly. 

18 hours ago, Animedragon said:

I read a report in in one of the newspapers this morning that will interest @Sakura. A shark has been spotted swimming up the river Thames in London. I did a bit of research and one of the reports I read says it's a tope shark.

I hope they got him out because Tope/Soupfins aren't meant to be in freshwater at all and can't survive there very long like say a bull shark could  It could be a dolphin which makes more sense after reading your second post. Tope's + dolphins get about the same length and would look very similar when underwater. If you look up a Tope shark you can see it looks very light gray with a white underbelly like a dolphin. Most people would just instinctively scream shark though. I hope if it is a Tope shark though they don't do something dumb like kill it as people do when they frenzy about things like that, because Tope's are critically endangered and usually won't even bother a human. 

[Forlorn]

5 hours ago, Sakura said:

Sharks have frequently been the culprits of problems with cable lines and other power type lines on the ocean floor because they are immediately attracted to them. The lines usually have some kind of protection around them but on more than one occasion sharks have been behind problems with cable/power from ocean lines  Not just sharks but barracudas also have been identified as doing the same thing before. Sharks also tend to lose their teeth a lot when ripping apart large animals like whales, but yeah it doesn't matter because they have new ones very quickly. 

Omg. o.o I was literally not expecting that they really do try to bite them sometimes. Do they get electrocuted in any way or are they unharmed when they try to bite into the cables? I hope nothing lethal happens to them because of the electricity in the cables. ;.;

[Animedragon]

6 hours ago, Sakura said:

I hope they got him out because Tope/Soupfins aren't meant to be in freshwater at all and can't survive there very long like say a bull shark could  It could be a dolphin which makes more sense after reading your second post. Tope's + dolphins get about the same length and would look very similar when underwater. If you look up a Tope shark you can see it looks very light gray with a white underbelly like a dolphin. Most people would just instinctively scream shark though.

I think you're probably right in saying could be a dolphin, the Port of London Authority said it's unlikely for a shark to be that far up the Thames and I think the PLA know more about the inhabitants of the river than anyone else.

6 hours ago, Sakura said:

I hope if it is a Tope shark though they don't do something dumb like kill it as people do when they frenzy about things like that, because Tope's are critically endangered and usually won't even bother a human. 

It's very, very rare for people to kill any unusual animal they see in the Thames. What usually happens is that it becomes a sort of celebrity attraction for a while and people go to see it, other than that it'll be left alone.

[Zeref]

Here we have the Ohio River and now I wonder if there are any sharks in it. I think it connects to the Mississippi River which in some point connects to the ocean, but whether a shark would swim this far up if they can't live in that kind of water I don't know. It would be interesting to see a shark in a river or even a dolphin. I think I have heard of a species of river dolphins before though unless I am remembering wrong. 

[Sakura]

18 hours ago, Forlorn said:

Omg. o.o I was literally not expecting that they really do try to bite them sometimes. Do they get electrocuted in any way or are they unharmed when they try to bite into the cables? I hope nothing lethal happens to them because of the electricity in the cables. ;.;

As far as I know, the fiber optic cable lines they bite don't actually have electricity running through them (could be wrong about that because I'm not a cable expert lol) I know they don't get electrocuted though, they end up just possibly losing a few teeth because shark teeth are often found embedded in the areas needing repair. 

17 hours ago, Animedragon said:

I think you're probably right in saying could be a dolphin, the Port of London Authority said it's unlikely for a shark to be that far up the Thames and I think the PLA know more about the inhabitants of the river than anyone else.

It's very, very rare for people to kill any unusual animal they see in the Thames. What usually happens is that it becomes a sort of celebrity attraction for a while and people go to see it, other than that it'll be left alone.

It's sad that I'm surprised when I hear about people not hurting sharks. Most people go into panic mode and want to kill them to get them out of the areas they aren't supposed to be. Sharks have a really bad rep and generally most of them are not harmful to humans and don't care about attacking a human. This is why I went into Marine Biology because I wanted to educate people about these amazing guys and how they are nothing like they are depicted in the movies

 

@Zeref Bull sharks have been spotted in the Ohio River before, which isn't really surprising to me because they'll swim up rivers with no issues. They can adapt to just about anything but you don't have to worry about regularly seeing them or anything lol Also yes, there are river dolphins.. which look nothing like the normal dolphins you would think about in your head when you think dolphin. Mostly in South America though and in some parts of Asia.

Edited July 27, 2024 by Sakura

[Forlorn]

20 hours ago, Zeref said:

Here we have the Ohio River and now I wonder if there are any sharks in it. I think it connects to the Mississippi River which in some point connects to the ocean, but whether a shark would swim this far up if they can't live in that kind of water I don't know. It would be interesting to see a shark in a river or even a dolphin. I think I have heard of a species of river dolphins before though unless I am remembering wrong. 

@Sakura beat me to the punch with the Bull shark information. lol I was just getting ready to say that, but how she put it is way better than any way I could've put it. ^^ ^^

16 hours ago, Sakura said:

As far as I know, the fiber optic cable lines they bite don't actually have electricity running through them (could be wrong about that because I'm not a cable expert lol) I know they don't get electrocuted though, they end up just possibly losing a few teeth because shark teeth are often found embedded in the areas needing repair. 

It's sad that I'm surprised when I hear about people not hurting sharks. Most people go into panic mode and want to kill them to get them out of the areas they aren't supposed to be. Sharks have a really bad rep and generally most of them are not harmful to humans and don't care about attacking a human. This is why I went into Marine Biology because I wanted to educate people about these amazing guys and how they are nothing like they are depicted in the movies

 

@Zeref Bull sharks have been spotted in the Ohio River before, which isn't really surprising to me because they'll swim up rivers with no issues. They can adapt to just about anything but you don't have to worry about regularly seeing them or anything lol Also yes, there are river dolphins.. which look nothing like the normal dolphins you would think about in your head when you think dolphin. Mostly in South America though and in some parts of Asia.

Oh, ok. Even though now I wonder if they ever feel pain when they lose their teeth from trying to bite something. lol I'm way too curious. XD

I've loved sharks for a long time now. I can't really remember how long though. Every time I observe or hear about some people committing atrocities and other dark things it feeds my misanthropy. I don't encounter, observe, or hear about enough good that people do for me to change my misanthropic view on humanity. Well... ok, selectively misanthropic since it doesn't apply when I find genuinely kindhearted people that, if I'm fortunate enough, I can befriend. When I encounter those rare gems of humanity they make the world seem that much brighter from my perspective. ^^