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so recently i've been trying to push my lazy ass outside to jog at night, and so far ive done it twice now (yaaay~)

never was a fan of big places (where theres many people, i am but not there !), so i never tried to bother to go to gym's, and i feel it would be a waste of cash to go exercise on gym's,

 

so like, im not sure what im saying <.>, but main topic time~!

do you guy's prefer going to a gym to get your daily exercise done ?, do you guys have your own style of training/exercise ?, or are you same as me, lazy af to do any excercise, but initially is trying to get into it ?! (or not, i wont judge couse im lazy tooo~)

as usual lets have a discussion~

also initially, i prefer going out and doing the exercise alone over going to gym's~,  unless i get to battle a gym leader and get a badge ;o

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  • XII360 changed the title to exercise - workout out or self training ?

I exercise mostly by walking or taking the bus wherever I need to go, but living situation and weather are not always good enough to allow me to do it frequently.

Weather here makes it so that gyms are the only place where you can exercise all year.

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Neck problems keep me from being able to do anything high impact (even walking affects me) and keeps me from being able to lift weights. Swimming, diving, and biking is all I can really do. 

 

 

I used to be a runner. Oh how I miss it. 😟

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6 minutes ago, Beocat said:

Neck problems keep me from being able to do anything high impact (even walking affects me) and keeps me from being able to lift weights. Swimming, diving, and biking is all I can really do. 

 

 

I used to be a runner. Oh how I miss it. 😟

im sorry about your situation!, being unable to run due to health problem's, (in my own words: really sucks), is bad

9 minutes ago, brycec said:

I exercise mostly by walking or taking the bus wherever I need to go, but living situation and weather are not always good enough to allow me to do it frequently.

Weather here makes it so that gyms are the only place where you can exercise all year.

i can relate to this, except instead of walking, whenever i go to school i use a bicycle, but even then i feel its not enough exercise, since i dont have classes at thursday/friday/and saturday, (thus i just slack off and be as lazy as can be in bed, or being deligent in my studies, usually both >.>)

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12 minutes ago, XII360 said:

i can relate to this, except instead of walking, whenever i go to school i use a bicycle, but even then i feel its not enough exercise, since i dont have classes at thursday/friday/and saturday, (thus i just slack off and be as lazy as can be in bed, or being deligent in my studies, usually both >.>)

Kind of interesting. You could try different means. A bike would be troublesome for me.

Of course, things are irritating when it comes to doctor’s visits, because they keep telling me that I am overweight, yet when I get enough exercise, I can lose three pounds at a time, and they make things seem easy, but I cannot do it because the the average climate here making for one or two terrible seasons for exercise.

I could probably exercise more if I was somewhere like San Diego.

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5 minutes ago, Wedgy said:

I'm a runner, mostly. Unfortunately I can only run in late spring/summer and undetermined amount of time in autumn. So I get out as much as I can during warmer months. During the winter, I will either buy a gym membership or just stick to my usual at-home yoga and kickboxing because of the snow.

Besides running I'm also an enthusiastic hiker. There's one place I frequent that is close to home. It doesn't have a proper trail established, so I have to go out there a lot to be familiar with the area. It's fun, though, and the landscape changes a lot depending on how much rain we've been getting. Lately the water has been high so I have to find other ways around the creek, which has lead to some... interesting adventures. I think what drove me to go out there so much however is because two years ago I was hiking out there alone and got confused, turned around and ended up going on the opposite side of the hill than I thought I was. It got dark, no cellphone service, I could hear animals stalking me and an owl swooped in my face. I ended up finding a slope and followed it down on all fours (it was really steep,) and eventually found the highway again around midnight. I never wanted to get lost like that again so I made a point to familiarise myself with each direction there and take a different route each time.

huh that sound's like a fun adventure, but also a traumatizing one, i probably woulda sat down and waited a bit while devising a plan on what to do, (but i would probably be too scared of mother nature's pet's !)

8 minutes ago, brycec said:

Kind of interesting. You could try different means. A bike would be troublesome for me.

Of course, things are irritating when it comes to doctor’s visits, because they keep telling me that I am overweight, yet when I get enough exercise, I can lose three pounds at a time, and they make things seem easy, but I cannot do it because the the average climate here making for one or two terrible seasons for exercise.

I could probably exercise more if I was somewhere like San Diego.

i live in a village, so jogging around is no problem's to me, (just gotta force myself to actually jog!)

we did recently have a typhoon too, that somewhat gave me reason's to not go outside, but school wont give in (especially couse "college"), and forces to keep classes going even though rain's are making floods in our area >.> (its an exaggeration on my part, but water level was kind of high?)

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27 minutes ago, Wedgy said:

It's aggravating being told there's a problem, but you're not offered solutions that work for you. And hopefully, they didn't insist you need to find exercise if the problem in their eyes is weight. I know it sounds stupid to argue with a doctor, but speaking as a dietician, weight loss is 80% what you put in. It helps, but personally I see it more useful for other health reasons. If your goal is weight loss, it doesn't matter how much you work out. If you eat nothing but junk then you won't be accomplishing much. 

Mostly, their recommendation is food, rather than exercise, in spite of the the fact I gain weight due more to lack of exercise, and  other common sense stuff. My problem why the recommendation does not make sense is that there is so much debate what is good.

In one camp, you have the people that advocate a high carb diet and low fat.

In another, you have the high fat low carb, which is said to be better because fats make you fill up quicker and feel fuller longer and your body does the work of controlling portions for you.

When I am alone, I normally eat good, in terms of portions, though most likely not those that would be considered healthy, as they are frozen pastas, TV dinners, and soups.

Heck, when I lose weight, it is not my intention to do so, and more of a result because of something I had or wanted to do (e.g. donate books to the library).

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2 minutes ago, Wedgy said:

Fairly put. Everybody has different nutritional needs. One set of macros won't work for everyone, and there really is no cookie-cutter solution. Otherwise I wouldn't have a job.. 😛

That's certainly true. After all, we do need specialists in areas to go deeper, though sometimes, I wish doctors would do their homework too, before referring patients to others.

Unfortunately, many doctors (mostly neurologists and GPs) come across, though I do not think that they believe to be the case, in a way that they think there is a one size fits all thing, and my studies for my tech degree told me that cure-alls do not exist (mainly comes from what the computer world would call the troubleshooting steps).

At least I know now that I have somebody here I can ask about these kinds of things to figure out the truth.

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24 minutes ago, Wedgy said:

To play the devil's advocate here, while I agree it can be frustrating, doctors generally have to take on that front of being right even if they truthfully don't know the right answer. The reason for that is because patients never want to hear "I don't know." Those are three very taboo words in medicine when communicating with a patient. They need to instill absolute confidence from their patients which can sometimes be impossible depending on the patient themselves. Furthermore, doctors are always, always undergoing continuous education to better themselves, and it could just be that they haven't arrived yet at that level. Doctors are imperfect humans like everyone else. That said I would personally much rather be referred to a specialist if my doctor doesn't feel they can provide me the right care/answers than just hoping the doctor can figure things out for me. 

This this something I can understand quite, and I can see, since the “I don’t know” is something that is hated by people regardless of field they are seeking help with, but there are somethings that they recommend that even the specialist they recommend would likely not know how to deal with.

From example, a doctor at my neurologist’s building, who was not my regular doctor but apparently got me day, recommended that I fix things that could cause problems later in life, but I have medical issues that can be problematic with drugs and there was no data as to whether people with my condition had any problems with the recommendation.

I liked how she said that she would look into it, as I am not too willing to be a test subject, unless my life was on the line either way, so she did show promise, though I got the feeling that she was too new.

Still, I do think things need to be easier for both the patient and the doctor.

39 minutes ago, Wedgy said:

specific answers or proper advice being that this is the net and all, but I'm open for discussion. :)

Darn, could not get the whole portion in the quote. Thanks @Wedgy.

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16 hours ago, XII360 said:

so recently i've been trying to push my lazy ass outside to jog at night, and so far ive done it twice now (yaaay~)

never was a fan of big places (where theres many people, i am but not there !), so i never tried to bother to go to gym's, and i feel it would be a waste of cash to go exercise on gym's,

 

so like, im not sure what im saying <.>, but main topic time~!

do you guy's prefer going to a gym to get your daily exercise done ?, do you guys have your own style of training/exercise ?, or are you same as me, lazy af to do any excercise, but initially is trying to get into it ?! (or not, i wont judge couse im lazy tooo~)

as usual lets have a discussion~

also initially, i prefer going out and doing the exercise alone over going to gym's~,  unless i get to battle a gym leader and get a badge ;o

So for me.  I prefer to stay in.  I hate being around people.  So when I go to gym people tend to be all over.  And they normally just talk to other people while occupying a machine I'd like to use.  I can't tell you how many times I've asked for next dibs on a machine just to break up a conversation a group of people were having.  They normally get the hint.  But it's still a pain.  I'm more a weight lifter kind of guy.  It's more fun in my opinion.  I miss having weights to lift.  I use to have my own at home gym that I was pretty proud of.  It was good times.  And a great solution for the whole gym problem at places like the YMCA.  If you're interested in working out, remember that getting in the mood for it is important.  If you can't get in the mood, then you struggle to push yourself.  This is a common problem with many people.  It's hard to get in the mood.  But once you beat a rhythm into it, it's very easy.  I'd say do what you have to in order to get into the mood.  And just get started and keep going.  don't stop after a week.  Try to trick yourself into loving it and eventually you're body will.  

But with anything practice makes perfect and you don't really need weights.  What's most important in my opinion is form.  Study form and focus on breathing then do what you're supposed until you can't keep your form anymore.  And always try to do better tomorrow then you did yesterday.  

I hope this helps you and make's sense.  And remember to warm up and stretch after a warm up.  Then do your deed.  

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9 minutes ago, FinDee said:

So for me.  I prefer to stay in.  I hate being around people.  So when I go to gym people tend to be all over.  And they normally just talk to other people while occupying a machine I'd like to use.  I can't tell you how many times I've asked for next dibs on a machine just to break up a conversation a group of people were having.  They normally get the hint.  But it's still a pain.  I'm more a weight lifter kind of guy.  It's more fun in my opinion.  I miss having weights to lift.  I use to have my own at home gym that I was pretty proud of.  It was good times.  And a great solution for the whole gym problem at places like the YMCA.  If you're interested in working out, remember that getting in the mood for it is important.  If you can't get in the mood, then you struggle to push yourself.  This is a common problem with many people.  It's hard to get in the mood.  But once you beat a rhythm into it, it's very easy.  I'd say do what you have to in order to get into the mood.  And just get started and keep going.  don't stop after a week.  Try to trick yourself into loving it and eventually you're body will.  

But with anything practice makes perfect and you don't really need weights.  What's most important in my opinion is form.  Study form and focus on breathing then do what you're supposed until you can't keep your form anymore.  And always try to do better tomorrow then you did yesterday.  

I hope this helps you and make's sense.  And remember to warm up and stretch after a warm up.  Then do your deed.  

i plan on jogging every 8pm, so as to have a 3 hours gap on before i sleep, but now its raining again, and this will somewhat ruin my plans if the street is muddy,

nonetheless ill try the suggestion! (whole warm out part), i didnt really do them, just grabbed a pair of slippers, and rannnn~ i just kept on running~, till i felt tired an ran back home (initially it was a 15minutes jog!)

if rain stops soon, i can still do my plans on jogging >:O!, if it doesn't, well studying for the quiz is also fine..?

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I didn't really exercise at all until recently twice a week I'll go out to the gym after work with a coworker (11pm).  There usually might be 1 or 2 people there, but they leave by the time we're done.  Only goals I really have by doing that is keeping up the relationship (since I just got a new job recently), and just making sure my body doesn't feel like its dragging me down (not really worried about getting super fit or anything).

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On 6/23/2018 at 5:09 PM, Beocat said:

Neck problems keep me from being able to do anything high impact (even walking affects me) and keeps me from being able to lift weights. Swimming, diving, and biking is all I can really do. 

 

 

I used to be a runner. Oh how I miss it. 😟

Same I have a neck to shoulder to back pain as well which prevents me from doing certain exercises like shoulders. 

I go gym like 3 times a week. My neck pain does not bother me as much but I can’t do certain shoulder exercises.

I do pushups everyday at home and try to increase my number. I also do other different excersises at home. I will join a mixed martial arts that’s why I am building up my strength.

Also I used to play football with the neighbors but that has also stopped because of my neck pain.

For me I hate feeling lazy. 

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