Is it true there is mass lay off going on cause of AI?

[Philippine Big Boar]

And many workers worldwide rebel against ai rising?

 

I think no one can force anyone to care for the world, and the most effective one so far from past if anyone cannot care is through fear of punishment like God, rebounding bad karma or regime and I doubt any kind of furious looking Capital G God will work much effectively nowadays. 

 

Rebounding bad karma is often portrayed and amplified to revenge and doesn't look intimidating nowadays too, and it's a more common view nowadays the consciousness is an illusion, and I think institutional religion tradition from previous generations unconsciously contribute to rising nihilism, so for most if one dies nothing survives.

 

Regime seems to be the current most working as it's the only without a doubt can act with power but even that is not as effective as generations before. And they cannot threaten AI companies to care for commoners

 

This seems to imply no rebellion will work, and work loss will continue and if companies will provide a new kind of work not only they will make the salary lowest possible(the lowest the law allowed) with no good reasons but also the possibility the new kind of work is undoable for most. 

 

The hate for AI companies is understandable but not many seem to look at what exactly made the companies they are in first place? But none of them matters anyways, just pointing that out. 

maybe in the future the government will pay anyone directly even if they are not doing anything if their AI will do the work but the budget will be astronomical.

In fact some AI CEO is already tried taken out by commoners

And if assassination is trending as some youtuber says i don't think it will work. The state is often neutral, not siding with any opposition, only care for peace and order despite some people inside could also belong to any existing external crowd personally. it's not a good idea to poke the state much.

And the state will always favor the most useful first, including useful AI companies even if they are neutral. 

Maybe incentives will work? With current AI progress, AI can provide in cheaper way too so incentives may not work. 

 

The lack of genuine care in the world plus the rise of AI might be fatal. And I think no ideology in history has made anyone genuinely care for the world, it's like falling dominos from the past.

[efaardvark]

I've lived through a couple major tech changes in my life.

Nuclear power was I think the first.  It was going to not only put the coal and oil companies out of business but it was going to make electricity too cheap to bother charging for and even allow us to colonize outer space.

Didn't quite work out that way.

The next was the internet and especially fiber optic cable.  Investors gave companies like Cisco huge amounts of money.  They used all of it  - and even borrowed huge additional amounts - to build and install high-tech routers and lay all the fiber optic cable that was expected to be needed.  Everyone was going to have gigabits of bandwidth and again it was goin gto be too cheap to meter.  Information would be instantaneous and everyone would know exactly what's going on everywhere at all times.  Everyone would understand everyone else and all the troubles caused by politics and religion would disappear.

That didn't quite happen either.  Cisco's stock only recently recovered to the level that it had before the dot-com bust.  Politics is still a cesspit of corruption and ambition.  If anything it is worse than before.

Now we have AI.  Clearly it is disruptive in the short term.  Investors are throwing huge amounts of money at AI companies.  The companies are spending it all and taking on huge amounts of additional debt to be the first to corner the market on AI.  (Stop me if you've heard this story before.)  Companies are laying off employees and swapping in AI to take over their jobs.  Bureaucratic / clerical errors will be a thing of the past and we'll all have free access to AI robots to do our laundry and wash the dishes.

But for now the AI companies are finding that those loans will have to be repaid.  The investors want a return on their investment too.  (Funny how that all works.)  They're switching to charging for tokens instead of taking subscriptions.  Tokenization is indeed making more money for the AI companies, but the flip side of that is that it is making things much more expensive for the AI users.  So much so that some companies are finding it cheaper to re-hire humans.  A lot of the early AI output is crap too.  The term "AI slop" is a term that has entered the industry vernacular.  I'm still doing my own laundry and washing my own dishes.

I think it is still way too early to say how AI will turn out.  There's a lot of work that humans don't want to do that can be done cheaply and efficiently by Ai.  That should reduce the price of goods and services.  We've already seen some of that in previous decades with industrial robots displacing blue-collar factory jobs.  AI just kind of takes that to the next level by allowing the automation into the white collar office worker jobs.  That sucks if you're the worker that gets displaced, but worldwide demographics being what they are it may work out for the best in the future as populations age out and (skilled) worker shortages become more common.  Provided that "AI slop" thing can be worked out and someone can figure out a way to make AI profitable of course.  Who knows?  If AI isn't a complete scam then maybe we'll even get a cure for cancer out of it when all is said and done.

[Philippine Big Boar]

1 hour ago, efaardvark said:

I've lived through a couple major tech changes in my life.

Nuclear power was I think the first.  It was going to not only put the coal and oil companies out of business but it was going to make electricity too cheap to bother charging for and even allow us to colonize outer space.

Didn't quite work out that way.

The next was the internet and especially fiber optic cable.  Investors gave companies like Cisco huge amounts of money.  They used all of it  - and even borrowed huge additional amounts - to build and install high-tech routers and lay all the fiber optic cable that was expected to be needed.  Everyone was going to have gigabits of bandwidth and again it was goin gto be too cheap to meter.  Information would be instantaneous and everyone would know exactly what's going on everywhere at all times.  Everyone would understand everyone else and all the troubles caused by politics and religion would disappear.

That didn't quite happen either.  Cisco's stock only recently recovered to the level that it had before the dot-com bust.  Politics is still a cesspit of corruption and ambition.  If anything it is worse than before.

Now we have AI.  Clearly it is disruptive in the short term.  Investors are throwing huge amounts of money at AI companies.  The companies are spending it all and taking on huge amounts of additional debt to be the first to corner the market on AI.  (Stop me if you've heard this story before.)  Companies are laying off employees and swapping in AI to take over their jobs.  Bureaucratic / clerical errors will be a thing of the past and we'll all have free access to AI robots to do our laundry and wash the dishes.

But for now the AI companies are finding that those loans will have to be repaid.  The investors want a return on their investment too.  (Funny how that all works.)  They're switching to charging for tokens instead of taking subscriptions.  Tokenization is indeed making more money for the AI companies, but the flip side of that is that it is making things much more expensive for the AI users.  So much so that some companies are finding it cheaper to re-hire humans.  A lot of the early AI output is crap too.  The term "AI slop" is a term that has entered the industry vernacular.  I'm still doing my own laundry and washing my own dishes.

I think it is still way too early to say how AI will turn out.  There's a lot of work that humans don't want to do that can be done cheaply and efficiently by Ai.  That should reduce the price of goods and services.  We've already seen some of that in previous decades with industrial robots displacing blue-collar factory jobs.  AI just kind of takes that to the next level by allowing the automation into the white collar office worker jobs.  That sucks if you're the worker that gets displaced, but worldwide demographics being what they are it may work out for the best in the future as populations age out and (skilled) worker shortages become more common.  Provided that "AI slop" thing can be worked out and someone can figure out a way to make AI profitable of course.  Who knows?  If AI isn't a complete scam then maybe we'll even get a cure for cancer out of it when all is said and done.

Yes, still a lot don't like easy and cheap. But there's also many companies that are not AI seems highly susceptible to be tempted by AI's performance for cheaper price, as if even if there's no concrete reason to lay off other than cheaper benefits and performance they won't hesitate, even if they already earning much with standard human labor with so called "inferior" Performance. And personally it's likely rooted to no genuine care in the world, one care to a certain perverted part like money.