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Well… I think after death only the mind stops along with gradual decay of the body. We have three parts: the watcher that can see the mind's memories, then the same watcher can see the world, but this watcher cannot see itself. But this alone is not concrete on its own, because some argue the watcher is part of mind so I'll reinforce it with other external logic: the only connection of watcher and to the world is both are aligned to perfect “Now”. And this is backed by scientific studies that the moment watcher, now, and world made connection, the mind accumulates memories and simultaneously projects an “imagination” And there's a time lag that the mind is not perfectly on now. This means the memory, imagination simultaneously almost imply that the experienced “now” is not a real now.

 

Another is: the watcher that cannot see itself which seems the only one aligned with now, and the world is also the exact same now to the other end of universe. 

 

And everyone else “watcher” is also aligned with now. So only the watchers are aligned with Now. Another is complexity of minds, animals has watcher but only human mind is conscious to his identity which seems to be one of supports that mind is not the watcher. 

 

Lastly, only mankind is capable of misery while everything else is perfectly happy. 

 

If everything is happy and someone dies miserable, and Nature has no power to erase let alone misery, and only a real world is the only that can cool down then it seems human babies are capable of thinking, then it seems likely they will inherit misery patterns, desires, etc. I highly doubt any heaven can make it cool down. 

 

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I try not to overthink it. It’s the natural end to the cycle. I focus more on making sure the "before" part is meaningful rather than worrying about what happens after the lights go out.

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While I'm not afraid to die, I do still have people I need to keep myself alive for. So, I don't live for myself. Accidents and the unexpected fatal injuries happen though. So do heart attacks. Even so, I feel my big sister's presence every second that I'm awake, so I know there's an afterlife. Like the Blue Oyster Cult song says: "don't fear the reaper." because there are worse things that can happen other than death to someone. Personally I consider death to be a release from the pain of the living world, but, as I said, I've still got people I need to keep myself alive for. My life isn't just my own, my friends and family would be sad and heartbroken if I did anything to myself like anything suicidal. I used to be very much suicidal, but now I've found a solid group of friends and my family would mourn me. So, I've kind of woken up to the reality that suicide is very much a selfish act.

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On 4/20/2026 at 8:38 PM, Philippine Big Boar said:

Well… I think after death only the mind stops along with gradual decay of the body. We have three parts: the watcher that can see the mind's memories, then the same watcher can see the world, but this watcher cannot see itself. But this alone is not concrete on its own, because some argue the watcher is part of mind so I'll reinforce it with other external logic: the only connection of watcher and to the world is both are aligned to perfect “Now”. And this is backed by scientific studies that the moment watcher, now, and world made connection, the mind accumulates memories and simultaneously projects an “imagination” And there's a time lag that the mind is not perfectly on now. This means the memory, imagination simultaneously almost imply that the experienced “now” is not a real now.

 

Another is: the watcher that cannot see itself which seems the only one aligned with now, and the world is also the exact same now to the other end of universe. 

 

And everyone else “watcher” is also aligned with now. So only the watchers are aligned with Now. Another is complexity of minds, animals has watcher but only human mind is conscious to his identity which seems to be one of supports that mind is not the watcher. 

 

Lastly, only mankind is capable of misery while everything else is perfectly happy. 

 

If everything is happy and someone dies miserable, and Nature has no power to erase let alone misery, and only a real world is the only that can cool down then it seems human babies are capable of thinking, then it seems likely they will inherit misery patterns, desires, etc. I highly doubt any heaven can make it cool down. 

 

 

 

Actually no, they have scientifically proven that there is in fact a life force that can be seen with proper equipment. 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/humans-light-extinguished-death-study-reveals-2078964

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On 6/2/2026 at 3:56 AM, Clayton said:

 

 

Actually no, they have scientifically proven that there is in fact a life force that can be seen with proper equipment. 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/humans-light-extinguished-death-study-reveals-2078964

Yes, but there are also study that the more happy the person is the more loosen the life force is, and the more miserable/depressed the more condensed. And if life affirming spirituality view holds the watcher  that can see both the memories, the world, even unseen parts like personality and desires then the watcher inside is still separate. 

The "watcher" Inside each living beings can see both mind, and the world, but cannot see itself yet it's the only thing seems perfect aligned with the now, as the mind accumulates memories as moments passes by. In fact the effect is also seen in double experiment slits where things in fundamental level gets affected when then someone observing it

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