Crevanille

How does Accel world not come to mind on here? Member that tiny little guy who had low self-esteem and had no real talent except at gaming? Forgot his name but I'm not bothering to look him up.

On 2/23/2019 at 8:47 AM, HanaApril said:

My username is in honor of my pet Roborovski hamster I gotten from a pet store years ago who tragically passed away the next morning I gotten her. So sadly she only lived for one whole day with me and then passed away the next morning. Due to her passing my mother and even myself were of coarse furious with the pet shop people in selling her to us knowing she was either too young, sick or even both to even be sold to us or anyone. We did however get out money back and we never attempted to adopt any animals there again. I do have knowledge of small animals more than I did when I was younger so I can tell if an animal is in good health or not. I got her at Petco and I still have to go there to get some things for my cat once in a blue moon. I rather not support them at all by buying from them but still they do have some items which I need for my cat that I sometimes can't get online. I wont get into a discussion on my thoughts about it more but that's what happen. So Hana April will live on in my username and still even now I've never once forgotten her and still miss her dearly today. R.I.P~

 

That's very heartbreaking but also tells alot about you as a caretaker. It's good to hear stories like this every once in a while. Gotta remind myself of stories like this when I believe empathy to be dead.

My username Crevanille is the default name of the silent protagonist of the Growlanser Wayfarer of time video game. He's shaped by how you play the game. He can be the most selfless courageous man alive saving others at the cost of his own welfare. Or he can be the most dangerous menace the world has ever known. He also has multiple romance options.

I choose him because he's the only character that I find absolutely cool. No other anime or manga character has made me obsessed with their story like Crevanille. He has all these possible endings all these romances. Each one a alternate reality made within a fraction of time. Awesome red hair, awesome romances. Until Crevanille I never thought a character looked so awesome. Sailor Scouts don't count. They will always have a special place in my heart. (Sailor Scouts take precedent over every other anime for me. Even Flcl.) I relate to Naota more than look up to him. But Crevanille isn't a Goku or Naruto. He's not popular. But everything he ever did in that game was nothing short of incredible. He's simply amazing in my opinion.

Try this moral game out. See how morally correct you think you are.  Regardless of score there is no right or wrong answer. Feel free to share your score if you want. 67% was my overall score. Try it out:

https://www.philosophyexperiments.com/moralityplay/

That would be so freakin cool. Though I'd add the 80's kids since they're still kinda going into the 90's. They could appreciate the last best era being kids themselves. 

On 2/6/2019 at 8:43 PM, Crevanille said:

It feels like we're finally leaving Winter behind. Yes! To hell with cold weather.

I spoke too soon. It's gotten cold again.

@efaardvark

That's robbery! The way the tax laws are run in this country is incredible to me. Branches of government like the IRS can be crooks all they want but the rest of us are expected to be law abiding citizens? F that. Our current government needs major reform. Not just on the taxes either.

As far as a christmas present is concerned, they can have every form of multiversal bag of d*cks that exists out there. That type of robbery can't be justified. 

4 hours ago, efaardvark said:

Pft... babes.  Just wait until you're 54! 

Gah. Your not kidding. I'm seriously not looking forward to getting older. The older i become the further away i get from my birth era. I don't want to understand how someone lives to like 70 or 80  without losing their minds. I really don't wanna live that long. 

4 minutes ago, brycec said:

Yeah, there are programs, but I was saying that they could just get their hands dirty and figure it out themselves too, rather than rely on programs and classes.

After all, that is how the ancients figured things out.

Ah yeah that's true to an extent. But do-it-yourself only goes so far you know? If your trying something for the first time and don't know what your doing you could hurt yourself or break something. Hence having a teacher is important.

47 minutes ago, brycec said:

Yeah, I agree with this one, though it is possible to gain skills somewhat freely, especially considering that such a method was how the tech we have today. We, as human beings, are just too lazy to go about it, or are not able to take that path.

That too is also true. There are programs out there for people to learn freely. Though many either don't know about them and quite a few are limited. 

8 minutes ago, Kanamesensei said:

"The more you make, the more they take."  That should be their motto.  Even if you claim zero, that is still not enough.  You need to give extra in order to not pay.  Cost of living is high.  But that's the government for you.  

I just see people who are desperate.  So don't go running your car into the IRS buildings.

The USA is NOT a free country.   

 

 

 

I really couldn't have said it any better. 

Hello Illsuion of terra-kun. Welcome to the board and hope you like it here. 

I too am in my late 20's. Sucks being so old eh? Ha. We're old people. Dinosaurs. Sigh. So depressing.

hella rlly-kun. Welcome to the board. 

On 2/7/2019 at 4:43 PM, brycec said:

To make it work, people need to be skilled in multiple fields, though maybe not to the level of jack of all trades, which they are not, if you get what I am saying here, otherwise there would be very few deals going on. That is where it will fail.

This part I completely agree with this part.

Sadly, we never really iron things out when it really matters.

Exactly. Teaching the general public multiple skills freely would actually help in the long run. The problem here is that in today's society unless your paying for those skills your not learning them. Many can take to literature and go very far on book smarts alone. Yet countless people need hands on training to truly grasp any form of new skills.

On 2/7/2019 at 6:34 PM, efaardvark said:

This is not true!  All capitalism requires is productivity, and it doesn't even specify how that comes to be.  As long as someone wants what you have and has something that you want more then a "capitalist" exchange can occur.  "Capitalism" is simply the trading of goods and services in a manner that both parties freely exchange something they have of lesser value for something they consider to be of greater value.  In its simplest form it does not require money.  If I have an apple and you have an orange but I don't like apples as much as oranges and you don't like oranges as much as apples then we simply trade.  Win-win.  That's capitalism at it's most fundamental.

Note that this can easily be used to encourage specialization.  If I have a useful skill but no time and no food and you have an apple but no applicable skill then instead of "spending" my time scrounging up my own food then I might use my time and skill(s) to do something for you in return for your apple.  You can spend your time growing apples (and developing the skill(s) to grow apples) and I can use my time doing something like growing oranges, or sewing, or chopping wood.  Again, no "money" required.

All that "money" does is make the transactions more efficient and allow them to occur at different times.  If I always had to carry around all the things that I might want to barter for any of the things I might want to obtain then I’d have to carry around a lot of stuff!  That or always be brokering elaborate multi-party chain deals to get what I want using what I have on hand.  My apple might also spoil before I find someone who wants it AND has something I need.  Much easier to produce (there's that word) and sell what I don't need to people that want it in exchange for some kind of proxy that that we all agree can be used as such, then value everything in terms of this "money".  Then I can just carry around a pocketful of coins or bills (or whatever) and exchange those for anything I might want as needed.

The particular item used as “money” is usually selected for its durability, its portability, and its inability to be duplicated (counterfeited).  Traditionally this means something like gold or other precious metals.   Banksters and their politicians have a hard time playing their shell games if they can’t produce “extra” on demand however so in practice the gold often winds up being replaced with promises of gold, and eventually simply unbacked promises.  That typically works until somebody points out that the emperor has no clothes.  Unbacked promises represented by easily-duplicated tokens are called “fiat” currency, and economic systems that rely on them historically don’t end well.  Take Rome for example, whose once-valuable silver coins were mostly tin at the end.  Or Zimbabwe for a more recent example.  For a while Zimbabwe's economy was reduced to trading cigarettes and whisky as "money" when people stopped accepting Zimbabwe's paper currency.   Unfortunately, when the fiat fails it is usually the economic “ism” in use that takes the blame instead of the debased monetary and/or political system.

Regulations to limit distortions and inefficiencies created by things like fraud and coercion are also desirable under capitalism, as in any economic system.  Again, this isn't a capitalism thing so much as a governance issue to make sure everyone plays fair.

Aye. Nevertheless Capitalism is synonymous with private enterprise. And what's the purpose of private enterprise? It's main aim? Profit. How do we define profit in a capitalist society? Financial gain. Trade itself goes back as far as the beginning of civilization. The idea of capitalism didn't even register until somewhere in the 1800s. 

On 2/7/2019 at 8:31 PM, Kanamesensei said:

Oh and let's not forget taxes!  The government gets you coming and going

IRS....Indefinite Raping Services. Seems about right. When tax time comes around i never get a return. Always somehow owe federal and state tax. According to them, i'm not withholding enough from my paycheck to stop these particular incursions. That on top of constant streams of nothing but bills? Gee it makes you wonder why people ram their cars into IRS buildings. 

1 hour ago, Illusion of Terra said:

I think money is the reason for a lot of bad things that happened and are still happening. It is not money itself however, but the greed behind it. But money enables this greed in an unparalleled way. Trade, if it is kept to actual and not 'virtual' trade or trade through intermediates, might be able to put a certain practical limitation to this greed because it would take too much to actually get vast amounts in the end.

But, money is quite a lot more practical than trade which is probably why over time it was generally accepted. In theory it doesn't matter if it is money or 'virtual' trade. Here's what I mean.
Let's say you have 1000 marbles but want a car.
Person A trades 1 sack of paper per 10 marbles.
Person B trades 1 printer per 10 sacks of paper.
Person C trades 1 car per 10 printers.
To get a car with just the 1000 marbles, you would first need to go to person A, then person B and finally person C. Since this would involve quite a lot of work just to get what you actually wanted, you would probably make something like 'virtual' transactions. You say to Person C that they will get 10 printers from B, and to B that they will get 100 sacks of paper from A, and you give person A the 1000 marbles. With that you could skip person B.
If you transfer this to longer chains of trade, you will in the end get a 'virtual' currency, which will not be much different from money.

The main fault is with human greed, but money is an excellent fuel for this greed.

Edit:
From a psychological perspective money can become what one really wants because of its reinforcing effects. Money itself has no/little value but since you learn that money can lead to desirable things (the reinforcing effect) you can end up wanting money itself, which actually never really had any value for you, because it led to desirable things so often or you just imagine what desirable things you could get. Then you are no longer after the things you want to buy, but money itself.

I actually understand what you mean. Although all you need is to find the right person. One right person.If your trading for a car or need groceries, carry out tasks that would be the equivalent of what your asking for. You know how to fix a roof? Capable of saving your fellow trader the trouble of finding transportation? Offer to help them x amount of times. Honestly we've monetized natural resources that have no business being on a market. Since they're natural resources.

And I agree wholeheartedly about people being the issue. Money in itself isn't bad.

*chomps an Eevee*

10 hours ago, ArchieKun said:

*hands you a hamburger from the table.

Yeah!!!!!!!

1 hour ago, ArchieKun said:

Flooding is no good, but thunderstorms can make for great sleeping weather.

I concurr. I've fallen asleep to a great many storms.

15 hours ago, brycec said:

Yeah, it did kind of work, but the trouble is that the things being traded must be considered fair and desirable to both parties.

Money kind of gets rid of that problem, as long as everyone believes that it has the value it is said to have, and dealing with taxes tends to be easier.

Only real way that you would get rid of the reliance on money is if the cage we live were shattered and everyone became completely self reliant.

Well when people did trade they agreed that the services or product traded would be a fair deal. The trade wouldn't happen if there wasn't a mutual agreement it was a fair deal.

I believe if this idea was expanded a bit more it could override our current system. 

Oddly enough capitalism would have you believe no one could survive without money. That simply isn't true. If everyone took the skills that they've learned in everyday life  and applied them, taught them to others and then created a system based on trade we wouldn't need to be so reliant on money. We had a system of trade before and it worked.

It feels like we're finally leaving Winter behind. Yes! To hell with cold weather.

"Unattainable dreams are the best kind" Director Lazard, FFVII

Kirito from SAO

vs

Sesshomaru from Inuyasha.

Location is the 100th floor of Aincrard. Sesshomaru somehow arrived in Aincrad through some random portal.

R1: Sesshomaru has everything except Bakusaiga. Kirito doesn't have Armament Full Control Art.

R2: Sesshomaru has Bakusaiga and Kirito doesn't have Armament Full Control Art.

R3: Sesshomaru doesn't have Bakusaiga and Kirito has Armament Full Control Art.

R4: Sesshomaru has Bakusaiga and Kirito has Armament Full Control Art.

Who wins?

Joel Miller

vs

John Wick

Round 1: The fight takes place in the Boston quarantine zone. Wick has knowledge of the layout. Both men have morales off and all their weapons at their disposal.

Round 2: The fight takes place in the Viggo's nightclub. Joel has knowledge of the layout. Both men have morales off and all their weapons at their disposal.

Who wins?

Hello you. Welcome friend.

Is it possible to have a battle thread on here? Just have a separate forum topic for it?