Clayton Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 So who is more important to the plot, the hero or the villain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbroken Experiment Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I say the villains. The hero would have a boring story without a good villain to take on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Posted April 15 Author Share Posted April 15 23 minutes ago, Forlorn said: I say the villains. The hero would have a boring story without a good villain to take on. Well they can do natural disasters and other things, but yeah, the bad guys are usually the reasont he heroes do anything at all. Imagine Sailor Moon if she had all that power, but no villains... then again she does eventually conquer the world. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 There wouldn't be any heros without villians. They keep the story going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeriiiclaire Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 When hero become villain and villain become hero therefore both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 On 5/7/2026 at 6:36 AM, Moxie said: There wouldn't be any heros without villians. They keep the story going Well villains or disasters. But yeah, without villains there aren't many heroes. In fact supervillains often give their heroes their powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 On 5/19/2026 at 10:34 PM, Clayton said: Well villains or disasters. But yeah, without villains there aren't many heroes. In fact supervillains often give their heroes their powers. Agreed! We wouldn't have batman if his parents weren't killed... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiyaSaysHaiya Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 While heroes are usually the protagonist of the story, I think their stories wouldn't be nearly as interesting without a villian. I'd much rather watch or read a story about a villian without a hero than a story about a hero with no villian. I also feel like villians generally have more interesting backgrounds and motivations that heroes (particularly in anime). It's not an anime ofc, but this actually reminds me of Megamind haha. It has such a fun twist on the hero/villian dynamics that I think is genuinely so amazing! I think Maleficent is also a good example of the villian taking the centre of the story. Both films are so interesting in the way they make you emphasise with the "bad guy" and make you think about what really makes somebody bad. That is, in my opinion, far more interesting than a story just about somebody fighting for the good of the world or whatever most heroes stand for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Posted June 1 Author Share Posted June 1 On 5/22/2026 at 8:45 AM, Moxie said: Agreed! We wouldn't have batman if his parents weren't killed... Technically Robin and the Teen Titans killed them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbaradavis Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 On 4/16/2026 at 3:18 AM, Clayton said: So who is more important to the plot, the hero or the villain? geometry dash online I love both heroes and villains and the ones in the middle. But there is just something about villains. Coriolanus Snow for example from The Hunger Games? Terrible guy hate him obviously he sucks but like I also love him lol. He’s just a great character and bad guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxie Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 On 6/1/2026 at 9:53 PM, Clayton said: Technically Robin and the Teen Titans killed them well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 5 hours ago, Moxie said: well... Yeah, DC is getting weird. you know there ate 3 Jokers now? And Harley Quinn... is she in the Suicide Squad or on her own in Conney Island? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animechat Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 On 5/7/2026 at 1:36 PM, Moxie said: There wouldn't be any heros without villians. They keep the story going Villains need to write smart and very clever motives to move the story forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablackenedrose Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 While not always true, heroes are frequently defined as much by the villains they clash with as anything else, and the villain and their machinations frequently serve as the thing that grounds the journey of the hero and makes it feel like a journey rather than aimless wandering, the villain's defeat often being the ultimate goal. Guts' whole story in Berserk is centered around his desire to get revenge on Griffith for destroying the Band of the Hawk. Midoriya's becoming the "greatest hero in the world" is inexorably intertwined with his conflict with Tomura Shigaraki and the latter's desire to tear the world down. Amuro Ray's legendarily messy rivalry with Char Aznable remains one of the most famous in the medium of anime to this day. Put shortly, I'd pick the villain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-chan Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Villain, because the villain sets the circumstance in which the hero exists. Looking at it this way, the villain here can be just whatever constructed the circumstance, i.e., the context of the hero, and thus does not need to even be a character and can be practically any contextual problems that justify the hero's existence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 I'm not sure truly good heroes can even become antiheroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animechat Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 On 7/22/2026 at 12:01 AM, Clayton said: I'm not sure truly good heroes can even become antiheroes. On 7/21/2026 at 2:07 PM, ablackenedrose said: While not always true, heroes are frequently defined as much by the villains they clash with as anything else, and the villain and their machinations frequently serve as the thing that grounds the journey of the hero and makes it feel like a journey rather than aimless wandering, the villain's defeat often being the ultimate goal. Guts' whole story in Berserk is centered around his desire to get revenge on Griffith for destroying the Band of the Hawk. Midoriya's becoming the "greatest hero in the world" is inexorably intertwined with his conflict with Tomura Shigaraki and the latter's desire to tear the world down. Amuro Ray's legendarily messy rivalry with Char Aznable remains one of the most famous in the medium of anime to this day. Put shortly, I'd pick the villain. Eren Yeager from *Attack on Titan* becomes a tragic villain by the anime's end and is written very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Posted Wednesday at 08:47 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 08:47 PM So picture your favorite anime without the hero. Then without the villain. Who is more easily replaced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animechat Posted yesterday at 06:20 AM Share Posted yesterday at 06:20 AM A villain is mostly easier to replace than a hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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