Nectar

I would help where possible, yes. I absolutely cannot draw at all. I'm very skilled with image manipulation though, so I'd happily edit it all together. I could contribute with the story too, I'm decent with writing. Oh, I'm absolutely the same. If it was made public, I know a lot of people would demand credit... I'd be desperately trying to ditch it

zoooooop I like your current avatar. I'd say about a 7/10. Riesbyfe and zoop go together so well and so often that now that it has become your signature. I really like yours and Cy~'s permanent installations of characters to use alongside your names. I think I preferred your last one, with the hoodie (I think?) That one gets a 9.

Not posted here before. I hope everyone is nice xP You are by no means, the only one. I too have a habit of this, I get very excited to do something that I don't realise is very difficult or intensive. Always fun when you hit that brick wall you should have known was there to begin with Not sure if we're entirely similar in that sense, but at the very least, I can comprehend how you feel Laziness is the best feature to have to your day. Nothing better than laying around... much more soothing than say, skydiving. Although... that does sound tempting. Good to see people are well. I'm doing well too, having a good day today. Been relatively productive, made some progress on one of my DIY projects, yet it's still been quite chilled and lazy. A good day.

I think that 3 is the truth :3 1. I have a heavy distaste for heavy metal. 2. I almost never wear expensive, branded clothing. 3. I once had a functional business selling pallet furniture.

That's quite the impressive collection Orius! Very well done and I commend you on your efforts to post them all here. I know it really takes a long time and is such a pain

Even after Orius's post of "You're on the right track", I'm going to have to vote @zoop. If you turn out to be innocent in the end, I apologise for your exile. If you're the traitor, I'll be damn pleased with myself If not... I'm coming to get you Sekkarou. Unless you kill me. In which case I'm counting on Wedgy and zin to ensure they catch her. And if they're the traitor, oh then we're all buggered.

Big post arrives that seems all-inclusive. It suggests zoop is the traitor. zoop immediately rushes in to ridicule it to make people think less of it. I mean... 'wink' was a funny word to use and it made me go a little red in embarrassment to read your post but... running in with the only intention of ridiculing my post is, for lack of a better word... suspicious.

You are mocking me damn it D: I'm having fun can't I have fun

A brucie-bonus addition to that. It's incredibly important and I just noticed it. zoop has experience with forum software, and will be familiar with member coding. She is more likely to have thought to use the code than Sekkarou, for this reason. This deduction, whether it's true or not, made my heart race a little

This is the last big post I intend to make before vote day. It took a very long time to write, so I really hope that it is helpful and/or entertaining. Here goes. And yes, I refer to 'Nectar' as someone different to 'myself'. I approach 'him' from an outside perspective, and give my honest opinion on the appearance of my own innocence. @Nectar - Negligible suspect. I don't really suspect Nectar. I don't think that he, a 15 year old who is completely unfamiliar with mafia games, would go to such extreme lengths to analyse potential traitors if he was in fact a traitor. He's 15, and has a few hobbies, which suggests that (unlike zoop, for example, who is a housewife) he would not have the spare motivation or time to dedicate to *insert plural of analysis* of potential traitors. He would only ever get engrossed enough if he was actually trying to solve a mystery. His writing style is genuine, based immediately off of zoop's, since he trusts and likes her writing style, and it seemed like a reasonable approach to this kind of game. I can tell this because Nectar didn't make any long, detailed deductions until zoop's deductions began to appear. Nectar isn't original, doesn't have the resources to spend on a lie when he would be more likely to just lie low instead if he was the traitor, and he has a limited knowledge due to his age and therefore would probably leave holes in his writing if he was a traitor. Finally, for his defence, he is known to me to be quite socially out of touch with most of the forum's members, suggesting that the message the traitor left about the harem couldn't possibly have been written by Nectar, as he lacks the comedic talent and plasticity to pull it off. He simply wouldn't think of it. However, he does appear to have been sucking up to some members, and he also is very articulate for his age and so could possibly avoid having issues covering up holes. I have a small suspicion of him, but it is very much negligible. @zin - Very negligible suspect. I don't really suspect zin. I don't know very much about her, though I know she is quite young. She comes off as a busy person, who spends a lot of time not on the forums but elsewhere. I think that if she was the traitor, it would have been clear to see by now that she was the traitor. For example, her writing style does not reflect the message left by the traitor at all, and I don't think zin left it. At all. I don't think she would think to write such a thing, or in the characteristic style that is known to, or utilised by, my prime suspects. She is an artist, and therefore inherently creative. I think that she is more comfortable with visuals than with writing, and so lacks the incentive or practice to create such an artful disguise. Since I don't know much about zin, and because she hasn't been here long enough to know much about the members here or for me to do any good research, I will assume comfortably that she is not the traitor. @Wedgy - Reasonable suspect. I don't know much about Wedgy either. I know that she is articulate. I believe she hasn't been posting here very much because she is a busy woman. I think she is comfortable lying low because it is convenient for her and an acceptable route to take. Her articulacy scares me. I think she could possibly have written the message, and maybe even planted zoop's member code on the wall in Kirry's blood. The only thing I can really say about her is that she could be the traitor, I can't really prove it, and I'm far better at picking apart the next few members in this list than I am at picking apart her. I can't prove you are either a traitor or innocent. That's a bummer. Be free. @Sekkarou - Suspect. I always confuse your gender. If you are male, I am genuinely very sorry because I get it wrong all the time and I don't have any hard evidence that I can call up to reassure myself. I'll edit every post to 'he' if I have to. I don't know Sekkarou, but I have seen plenty of her. I think she likes video games a lot. She is not extremely active. She is witty and makes jokes constantly. She seems very socially inept to me, akin to Kirry in her mannerisms and in what she would think to write. I think the message left by Kirry's body is exactly what she would write. I think that she would think of that in a heatbeat, and it would come very naturally when posed with the question "Do you wish to leave a note?". I think her love of video games would draw her attention away from the forum enough that she would miss flaws in her own work. I think she is a popular suspect because of this. I don't think the common reasons for voting for her are very important though. What does it for me is more the fact of the message left by Kirry's body. As you've read, I use that as evidence a lot, since I think it's the best clue we have. I think either she wrote it, or zoop did. Possibly Wedgy too. Not Nectar and not zin. It could still be either of those two of course, but it's unlikely. Extremely unlikely. I have to have a suspect that is in second place, and Sekkarou has to be it, since realistically it's either zoop or him anyway. @zoop - Prime suspect. I'm going to be criticised for buttering her up once more. In my eyes, I'm not at all. I'll be surprised if anybody disagrees with me when I say that zoop is very smart. It's not buttering up, it is a painful fact. zoop has called me out for 'buttering her up'. She has historically directed attention to those who attack her without commenting on their opinion or post. I hope she has something to say about this post at least, it might just make her slice of the pie a few calories lighter, if not grams. You should never talk about the age of a lady, but let's just say she's been here longer than I think I can keep my sanity for on Earth. She is not old by any means, but she is experienced and mature and ew why did I just think of that O_O zoop has the knowledge to be able to pull off exactly what has transpired so far. I am more confident of that fact than any statement I've made in this post. That alone puts her as my prime suspect. There's more to it than that though, which is what puts her ahead of her 'rival suspect', Sekkarou. I forgot to mention before, but zoop, despite being active and there being a lot of suspicion tossed around about her, had not made a post until just now. As a traitor, did she decide to stay away to avoid drawing attention to herself with desperate spewing of defences? Something for voters to consider. It doesn't help her case by any means. This is interesting. Assuming this is perfectly genuine, this shows me that the blood scrawled on the wall was done by the murderer, not Kirry. This makes zoop even more likely to be the traitor in my eyes, as I think Sekkarou and zoop would both write their own names on the wall. @Orius is a useful source of evidence. I'll reference one of his quotes: This is hard to interpret, but I have decided that Orius would only say this with precisely this level of emphasis on zoop if zoop was the traitor. I think it would have beeen very slightly less extreme if she wasn't. I think Orius has used underlying and monumentally subtle sarcasm to wink at zoop. It is too deep and too hard to explain my exact interpretation of his words, but I'll say that his choice of words has knocked zoop a tiny bit further into the 'Prime Suspect' field. I'm not going to vote right now. My decision is to vote zoop, but I won't until proper 'voting season' rolls around. As you have seen, I'm still listening out for clues to tip the bar. I take them with a pinch of salt, but I hear them and interpret them. Here is a pie chart of the liklihood of living members being the traitor, in my opinion. I really, really love this game, can you tell?

Well then. So either Kirry scrawled zoop's member code onto the wall in a desperate effort to expose her without making it so obvious that it would prompt zoop to clean it off... or.... the traitor just stuck her code on there to frame zoop. Personally, I believe that zoop probably did that. It sounds like something only she would think to do. Unless zin/Wedgy is on par with her. Which I'm going to have to guess at no, because I frankly don't want this to be any more painfully complicated. Just two suspects... please Because it wouldn't make a difference. If you were the traitor, the person you're talking to can't be the traitor. So if you told them your plan, they can't steal it. Nobody will take your word for it and you'll be safe the second time around if you do something different to what you said you would do. There's no chance of you stitching yourself up after all, unless you have a death wish. There are many people who's vote for you will not change regardless of you revealing your plan because of these two pairs of scenarios that are equally likely: 1a. You are the traitor. You discuss your strategy, and change it to avoid suspicion. 1b. You are the traitor. You discuss your strategy, and stick with it and pretend you must have been framed as a result. 2a. You are innocent. You discuss your potential strategy, and the traitor does something different. 2b. You are innocent. You discuss your potential strategy, and the traitor follows your strategy to frame you. Because nobody will trust you when you say "It's not me" which of course you would do whether you were or not, then it doesn't make a difference whether you share your 'plan' or not. You are just as likely to be framed as you are to pretend to be framed. Scenarios 1a and 2a are the same visible outcome to us. It looks the same to us, so we can't tell them apart. And because we can't tell whether you're the traitor or not, then voting for you is guesswork. That's why I'm reluctant to vote for you. It won't make me feel clever and I won't have any fun from winning a game of chance. I'd prefer to have solid evidence against someone, vote for them because of the informed (as opposed to blind) guess, and win as a result. That's proper detective work, and is what makes mafia games fun for me. I hope this makes sense, I've rewritten this 3 times in different formats Mine won't. I've decided that if I vote for you, that won't be the reason why. The other things I've previously mentioned leave more significant holes in your defence than that. I'm torn between you and zoop. It all depends on what I feel like on voting day. Traitor, you have a very strong defence. Now I intend to compare the behaviours that I think zoop and Sekkarou exhibit and would perform in order to deduce which one of you made the mistake of doing something that only you would do, and not the other. If I can crack the subtle language or behaviour fuck-up, which I sincerely hope is there, then I will vote for the person that made it. You are both equally my prime suspects. If the traitor is neither of you, my reputation, however small, is completely ruined. But I will take the gamble. Wedgy... zin... if either of you is the traitor, damn you. Damn you and your incredible defence that probably isn't actually all that incredible because I'll use my pitiful excuse that I'm 15, naive and not Sherlock Holmes. I'd better get thinking, huh? --- Side note/afterthought... is Cy~ in this game? Omg have I neglected you completely? Oh no... are you the traitor? Am I stupid? Are you and zoop in an alliance? Stop laughing at me!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UXircX3VdM Wow. Completely wow.

Who is your prime suspect(s) zoop?

Well this is very interesting indeed. First, my responses to all of you I'm not surprised, especially as you are my prime suspect at the moment. No worries yet though, I think it's pretty likely you're being framed. Ack. The wording of that really gets at me. I swear you either really hate this game and want to be voted out after all your semi-confessions, or my gut feeling is completely wrong for the second time and I should just go and exile myself I agree. If I was the traitor, I'd probably have killed Wedgy, since he has had very little to say in this at all really, and would have been, in my opinion, an easy and quiet target. I wouldn't aggrovate anyone, I'd just pluck Wedgy out of existence and make yourself and @Kirry easier targets for exile. Now nobody steal my strategy or use it to frame me please Rest in peace. At least we can use your death to narrow our search down somewhat. Okay, I'll try to make this concise. @zin , I don't suspect you. If you are the traitor, you were wise in having a limited opinion but still showing your face. @Wedgy , I don't suspect you. Feel free to cackle in your chair if you are in fact the traitor, since you won't be getting my vote. @zoop , I am beginning to suspect you. A lot. This is why: You are, as somebody before me put it, (Sorry for forgetting you) terrifyingly smart. You have spent your entire time here playing mad detective, which provides a neat little cover over you that wards me away, thinking you're so busy being critical of everybody else that you couldn't possibly be the traitor. You act genuine. I think anybody can take that route quite comfortably. Heck, I'm taking a similar approach. But I'm not as smart as you. I think you're smart enough, and take this as a compliment if you will because it is one, to fake all of that. Everything you're doing could well be an act. I think if you were the traitor, you would know what you're doing. You are the most dangerous person here. I think you're worth exiling just in case, as what you're worth as a detective isn't as much as the head of the traitor. You really might just get my vote. @Sekkarou , I suspect you. Why? Because of what Scrooge revealed before his departure. You've been planning what you'd do if you were the traitor. Or at least thinking about it enough to make something up about it. I'm not sure you care enough about this game that you would do that unless you were the traitor. If you weren't the traitor, you wouldn't bother sharing 'what if' statements. You'd make some comedic posts, maybe a little light detective work, and leave for a bit. You come across to me, and I don't really know you to be fair, as someone who quite proudly doesn't give an excessive quantity of fucks. I think they're better spent elsewhere for you. I also think you would kill Kirry, and joke about her harem. Unfortunately, which is where this gets a tiny bit more of a difficult decision, I also think zoop is easily smart enough, easily, to frame you with that. I think she would think of that, and put it in there to stitch you up. She has acknowledged your comedic half-confessions, and I think she would use that to frame you, thinking people like me would vote for you based on that. If I did vote for you, and I'm right about that last thing, then I would be falling into zoop's trap and she'd have a good laugh at me. It wouldn't be the first time to be honest So. I have to decide between you two. Go ahead, post away for a bit. I'll go back to lurking before my brain and my gut decide who to vote for. My brain says zoop, my gut still insists on Sekkarou. I went with brain before, let's see what takes dominance this time. And please don't vote me out Or kill me. I'm enjoying this it's my first game Failure of the highest calibre.

I am generally shy around new people in person. Very. Some would call me useless. With people I know, it's completely different. I am extremely outgoing and never quiet. I'm not shy at all with authorities at my school though, for some reason. I have no problem calling them out on being painfully wrong or standing for 5 minutes explaining my controversial views on the runnings of the school to someone who probably decided to run the school that way in the first place. For whatever reason, my 'shyness' doesn't apply there at all. But completely new people? The average Joe on the street? Naa, I'm pretty awkward for talking to them. If somebody asks me for directions, I guiltily just walk right on past them, I feel bad but I know I'd feel worse if I told them the wrong directions Probably the worst thing for me, is when a friend or family member introduces me to a friend or new girl/boyfriend. I am horifically awkward with that new person every single time and I'm always very shy and usually hide away somewhere to avoid them. I don't really have issues making friends, I'm pretty good at representing myself well in public and if somebody likes me and I like them, we'll talk, make friends, s'all good.

Damn, I miss that haircut. And that was over a year ago now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnExahMPPFI

A reasonable assumption for Kirry to believe that that's what I was doing. Reasonable, but not true Don't tempt me to make this any more of a vague suspicion. Although it's not like ulitmately changing my vote would make a difference anyway. Take them. Take anything I have. Just let me keep my sanity, please I swear if I met you irl I would spend half of my time being inherently confused, whilst still being hugely entertained Maybe I'm just very socially stupid? Maybe I'm secretly, no publicly a laughing stock here? Are my attempts to understand internet forum posters completely futile? I will keep trying. I'd just better go to Morrison's and buy a hella lot of cookies.

*sigh* God fucking damn it this happens to me every time. Do I not pay attention? You never fail to confuse me Did it work? Sort of. It made me suddenly very embarrassed and made me question all of my previous behaviours, as a lot of things you say to me do Come on, indulge me please. What ever did you mean?

I was doing what now? I'm curious as to who's butt you are referring to here If you mean zoop's, then it's a reasonable assumption to make, I suppose. That wasn't my intention, I just completely agree that Scrooge is probably the traitor for the same reasons that zoop did. I remember walking home from school with a grin reading Scrooge's PM thinking how it would have been better for him if he hadn't have bothered. Particularly his first sentence, which I'm aware that I've been mentioning an awful lot. There wasn't a lot more I could say that wasn't already out, so I voted Scrooge. I have since developed a small bubbling suspicion of Sekkarou, however. I think I'll keep that to myself until I let it... idk distill or something.

*ahem* Sorry @Scrooge I'm voting for you for basically the same reason as @zoop did, I thought it especially suspicious to be sending PMs like you did to immediately accuse other members. The first line of the PM, about being a 'hero of justice' seemed a little forced too and it made me suspect you rather a lot. Whoever it is, I hope I don't look like an idiot by voting for you if it's somebody I didn't expect

@Cy~ Fixed it. I didn't put .jpg on the ends of any of the tags, so that is why. Thank you for trying to look