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Thoughts On The Latest Episode of Fruits Basket?

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On 6/3/2019 at 9:50 PM, EnviousEnvy said:

Wait, wait, wait... the title of episode nine has me majorly confuzzled here. "Yuki Was My First Love" I thought Haru and Yuki's relationship was purely friendship or was I mistaken?? Think I'm gonna have to give this a rewatch, lol.

If I'm not mistaken, that's an echo of something Haru did in fact state in the manga, and I can't remember if he said it in the anime. Can't be certain he meant it in the romantic sense- Haru simply has a deeply-rooted respect for Yuki and it comes across as brotherly. 

As far as what that may imply about his sexuality, another thing we know from the manga/Another: (spoiler of course) 

 

He is/was romantically involved with Rin and they have made love. They later married and had twins.

Haru does also demonstrate that he's got a very blunt/forward personality and is very unabashed if anyone misinterprets what he says. Social norms don't seem to mean a lot to him and he simply states what's on his mind. I for one find him to be a sincere and endearing character. :)

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<raises hand> watched it last night.  The Valentines Day double “date” between Kyo/ Kagura and Yuki/Tohru was cute as expected. But must admit I’m a bit perplexed and uneasy about Shigure’s comments.

 

While I was expecting his usually lackadaisical behavior to be a cover for a more serious side, his comments about using people  (soecifically Tohru, Kyo & Yuki) to achieve his goal and not caring if they get hurt in the process caught me by surprise. It clearly has something to do with his relationship with Akito, but I remember very little about the original series so I don’t know if it was touched on or not. I know the series also has it’s darker side, but must admit I feel apprehensive at the moment

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Even though Shigure tells Hatori he doesn’t care if others get hurt as a result of what he trying to do, I don’t think he’s the same as Akito, who seems to be motivated by selfishness and spite. Rather, I think Shigure considers his ultimate goal to be important enough that he’s willing to be resented for his actions if that’s that it takes to accomplish it.

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17 hours ago, Ohiotaku said:

<raises hand> watched it last night.  The Valentines Day double “date” between Kyo/ Kagura and Yuki/Tohru was cute as expected. But must admit I’m a bit perplexed and uneasy about Shigure’s comments.

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While I was expecting his usually lackadaisical behavior to be a cover for a more serious side, his comments about using people  (soecifically Tohru, Kyo & Yuki) to achieve his goal and not caring if they get hurt in the process caught me by surprise. It clearly has something to do with his relationship with Akito, but I remember very little about the original series so I don’t know if it was touched on or not. I know the series also has it’s darker side, but must admit I feel apprehensive at the moment

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Even though Shigure tells Hatori he doesn’t care if others get hurt as a result of what he trying to do, I don’t think he’s the same as Akito, who seems to be motivated by selfishness and spite. Rather, I think Shigure considers his ultimate goal to be important enough that he’s willing to be resented for his actions if that’s that it takes to accomplish it.

I have to admit I'm a little scared when it comes to Shigure's intentions now. I can't recall much of the original series either (should rewatch it/read the manga). 

 

I forgot how delicate and emotional Kyo is especially when he's around Tohru. I feel incredibly sad for him. 

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@OhiotakuI think you're right in that it does have everything to do with Akito. I like to think of it the same way a dog can be friendly to all, but is only truly loyal to their owner- in this case I think the answer is quite obvious who that is. I just don't remember it being this spelled out for the audience and certainly not this far along in the story. 

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This past weekend’s episode was a bit of a mixed bag for me

Stuff I liked

 

Kyo’s reactions to things, though that’s pretty much true every week. Favorites being the ping pong match with Yuki (such as it was) and struggling to control his temper when he finds out the gifts Tohru bought for them caused her financial difficulties. I also liked when Yuki felt the need to step outside before cracking up (one of his better moments so far). And the addition of Momiji and cow guy as classmates when school resumes certainly does promise to make things more interesting.  

Stuff I didn’t

 

Not really correct to say I disliked it, but Momiji’s story made me uneasy. Although it had an immediate relevance to Tohru’s altruistic nature, taken with Shigure’s comments the other week I also get a sense of foreshadowing. The proprietoress was a bit over the top for my tastes (can’t wait to meet her son since he seems to be the source of a lot of her melodrama). Finally the revelation that Momiji is only a year younger made his comments about bathing and sleeping with Tohru feel a bit ecchi 

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Currently my #4 series for the season

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I found it hilarious that Hatsu actually went to the bathroom to "prove" his white and black hair was natural. Then Tohru asked just what he did. Poor girl is so innocent to the world around her. 😂😂😂

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42 minutes ago, EnviousEnvy said:

I found it hilarious that Hatsu actually went to the bathroom to "prove" his white and black hair was natural. Then Tohru asked just what he did. Poor girl is so innocent to the world around her. 😂😂😂

Yesss! This is my favorite scene in the whole anime 🤣🤣🤣

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1 hour ago, Seshi said:

Yesss! This is my favorite scene in the whole anime 🤣🤣🤣

Omg I'm starting to become more and more partial to Hatsu. Maybe even more so than Shigure. 🤔

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That happened to be the very scene my hubs walked in on while I was watching last week. After Tohru asked what it all meant, he finally cracked a bit and just went "wtf are you watching lmao" 

Was so happy he asked. :D

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Well it certainly didn’t take long for Hatsu & Momiji to make an impression on the school now did it? :lol:

On the serious side of things

As terrified as Yuki is of Akito, he still confronts her when he thinks she might do something to Tohru. And the look Kyo gives her is full of nothing but hate

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Not sure if “shameful” or “shameless” is the vest word to describe Yuki’s brother as he comes across as being even more of a handful than Haru :lol: I pity the poor teachers who had him & Shigure as students together. Funny that Hatori was/is assigned to keep him out of trouble.

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On 6/30/2019 at 6:43 AM, Ohiotaku said:

Not sure if “shameful” or “shameless” is the vest word to describe Yuki’s brother as he comes across as being even more of a handful than Haru :lol: I pity the poor teachers who had him & Shigure as students together. Funny that Hatori was/is assigned to keep him out of trouble.

If nothing else, "eccentric" easily fits. I am actually liking his portrayal much more than I remember from the first series. Maybe its my imagination but he seems to be a more defined character now than just some bizarre and overly flamboyant Maxi Pegasus clone.

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Omg episode hit me in the feels. I feel so bad that Momoji had to go through with having a psychotic and horrible mom. I don't care how anyone looks at it; I will never understand how a parent can disown their child just because that child is a little different. When Momoji explained to Tohru that he had to make the choice to let his mom go or not have her get better made me cry. Poor Momoji. I can see why he clings so hard to Tohru. Even though she's a high schooler, she's like a parent in a way to him. Always doting on him and so caring. I bet if she was older she would of gladly taken him in. Either way, Momoji is so strong.

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This episode was just beautiful all around. As @EnviousEnvy expressed above, Momiji saw some huge relationship building with Tohru and really solidified why he so willingly regards her as a safe confidant, and I just love that. It was interesting how his perspective about trying to forget painful or traumatic events was contrasted pretty blatantly with Uo and Hanajima's commentary on the same subject.

Aaand because I've grown to adore comparing where this version of the anime excels from the old one, I need to talk about Kyo. 

The breadcrumbs being left here and there about Kyo's relationship to Kyoko are so hard to ignore. They were skipped over entirely the first time around, either because the anime didn't plan on running for that long, or because it was just such a late game element in the manga that it was outpaced. Whatever the reason, it just fills me with fangirly glee because as it happens, this is a core layer to Kyo's character and he just isn't right without it there.

This is the first time we've really been introduced to it in the anime thus far, between his seemingly reluctant desire to accompany Tohru to see her mother, his quiet reverie, and most obviously Hanajima literally calling him out on it.

Even if you're a first time fan, you have a signal here that there is a lot more going on with Kyo than he initially lets on, and I hope the anime keeps up this theme of slowly teasing tidbits of the Sohmas and their individual secrets.

 

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Seemed like there was a lot more going on  this week than previous episodes.

In regards to Momiji, I wonder if his dad told his mother about the Sohma curse, since having that strong a reaction would seem to indicate she had no clue it was even a possibility. Just goes to show the real curse isn’t the animal transformations, but how dysfunctional the family is.

Always makes me smile how protective Uo & Hana are of Tohru.

In regards to Kyo

 

I initially chalked up his hesitancy to just being uncomfortable about confronting death, probably because of losing someone important himself. But the ending scene which starts out feeling like it will be a romantic moment, but turns into something else entirely as it suggests he somehow feels responsible for the death of Tohru’s mom. Quite the bombshell.

Finally, new cour means new OP/ED. While neither are as epic as the previous ones, both are cute. Especially the OP which seems more upbeat & optimistic.

 

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New OP

Just makes me smile 😁

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On 7/13/2019 at 9:21 PM, Ohiotaku said:

New OP

Just makes me smile 😁

YAAASSSS. I do love a new opening and ending theme. 

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I honestly forgot all about Uotani having a rebel side, oops. As much as I feel bad for Kyo I also have a soft spot for Uotani. So glad they found Tohru in their lives. Even though she has been through hell as well, Tohru still brings light to others and shows them that life isn't all bad. You just have to look on the brighter side.

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I loved this episode so much. It's so refreshing to see every character getting some level of personal spotlight and Uo deserves some of that love. 

KURENO WHEN aaaaaaaa!!!!!

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This series just keeps getting better & better (actually going to bump it up a point on MAL after watching this week’s ep). Very powerfully written dealing with the kind if life Uo was living prior to meeting Tohru. We normally see Uo & Hana acting as Tohru’s support network, but we were given some insight as to how Tohru has also acted as a lifeline and why she’s so precious to them.

In addition to all the well written drama, we also get some enjoyable not ecchi fanservice with the girls in swimsuits. And some very funny moments. It comes naturally for Shigure & Kyo, but also liked the trio of delinquent wannabes. Especially

 

the after credit scene of them getting freaked out by Momiji (don’t know exactly what he said, but apparently something about liking hamburgers)

Looks like next week will be a continuation

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On 7/8/2019 at 2:22 AM, Wedgy said:

This episode was just beautiful all around. As @EnviousEnvy expressed above, Momiji saw some huge relationship building with Tohru and really solidified why he so willingly regards her as a safe confidant, and I just love that. It was interesting how his perspective about trying to forget painful or traumatic events was contrasted pretty blatantly with Uo and Hanajima's commentary on the same subject.

Aaand because I've grown to adore comparing where this version of the anime excels from the old one, I need to talk about Kyo. 

 

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The breadcrumbs being left here and there about Kyo's relationship to Kyoko are so hard to ignore. They were skipped over entirely the first time around, either because the anime didn't plan on running for that long, or because it was just such a late game element in the manga that it was outpaced. Whatever the reason, it just fills me with fangirly glee because as it happens, this is a core layer to Kyo's character and he just isn't right without it there.

This is the first time we've really been introduced to it in the anime thus far, between his seemingly reluctant desire to accompany Tohru to see her mother, his quiet reverie, and most obviously Hanajima literally calling him out on it.

Even if you're a first time fan, you have a signal here that there is a lot more going on with Kyo than he initially lets on, and I hope the anime keeps up this theme of slowly teasing tidbits of the Sohmas and their individual secrets.

 

Just made it to ep 14 today, and I was wondering what was the “I’m sorry” for at the end. Thanks for that commentary, I was so lost. That really is amazing insight, I’m so excited to learn more!

Oh! And gorgeous Ayame 😍

Ep 15 😆 Jason!!! 🐻

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7 hours ago, Seshi said:

Just made it to ep 14 today, and I was wondering what was the “I’m sorry” for at the end. Thanks for that commentary, I was so lost. That really is amazing insight, I’m so excited to learn more!

Hopefully said commentary didn't spoil too much, but I promise you it gets really good. Kyo is going to really shock and surprise you. :D

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2 hours ago, Wedgy said:

Hopefully said commentary didn't spoil too much, but I promise you it gets really good. Kyo is going to really shock and surprise you. :D

Nah, I’m this case I was craving the answers so bad I probably would have went to the manga if you didn’t have it written here already 

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